Metal, Shred and Haters with Herman Li (DragonForce) & Lucas Mann (Rings of Saturn)

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Shred Talk! DragonForce guitarist @Herman Li & Lucas Mann of @Rings of Saturn Band Official discuss how to deal with haters and negative comments in real life and on the internet. What do you think someone should do, to prepare themselves if they are to become a professional musician or artist in the public eye?
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DME EMD 6 օր առաջ
I've been play guitar for 20 years, I know what you guys are playing is being played, also people don't understand I technology it is used, including lag and which guitar their hearing and so on. I have seen you guys at venues where stage is one foot or two foot high so you're right up there in the front and any video I've recorded of your shows is obviously you and the band playing. If you look at Tosin Abasi, everybody was saying that he couldn't play that clean which obviously isn't the case either. The shit needs to stop with this. I seen other bands and I won't name them where it's obviously sampled over. I think you should repost this video again because the sort of stuff doesn't get better so I appreciate you putting something out like this. 🤘
Rich Nixdorf
Rich Nixdorf 7 օր առաջ
Let's not mention in flames, killswitch, all that remains, unearth and ect.
Rich Nixdorf
Rich Nixdorf 7 օր առաջ
Maybe sprinkle in some overcast, shadows fall and dream theater.
Adam Glory
Adam Glory 8 օր առաջ
When I heard Herman say, guys would go up to the girl with him and say, I’m a better guitar player than this guy. 😂 NGL I laughed at loud.
macdonald 24 օր առաջ
this podcast is gnarly af
EnVision Ամիս առաջ
you seem like the nice guitarist ever, great work love what you do. subscribed
Soldagg Ամիս առաջ
Some people are insane. What is wrong with people? (the haters).
Bob Rocks
Bob Rocks Ամիս առաջ
I guess untalented jealous people just can't appreciate great guitarists... sad. These guys are huge inspirations, respect! \m/
Bronco XY
Bronco XY Ամիս առաջ
When you got your fair share of haters, thats when you know you're good lmao Amazing players both of you, wish you all the best and I'm happy to see that you are well able to prove every shittalker wrong; love ya!
Al Brandon
Al Brandon Ամիս առաջ
Really important stories here, thanks so much for sharing!
lociam riff
lociam riff Ամիս առաջ
Que layos dijo?
Terd Cutter
Terd Cutter Ամիս առաջ
i took acid at a rings of saturn show at the trocadero in philly holy shit dude lucas gave me a shout out for being maniac
Dr. SMILE Ամիս առաջ
You should featuring MATT ZULEGER from SHADES OF BLACK :)
Salzius Toxicus
Salzius Toxicus Ամիս առաջ
Two great Musicians and Two Great Humans!!!
Ádám Vécsey
Ádám Vécsey Ամիս առաջ
This was awesome. Both guitar players should be admired for their skills and all the people accusing them faking their music... they're just so damn ridiculous. I don't know what the accusers were smoking :D But you know the words... haters gonna hate. Jealousy is and will always be a powerful feeling and also a powerful "asset" to let out their negative energies and unleash those on others. Btw I love both bands, I've listened to lots of DF several years ago, but a few years ago the melodies (of DF, RoF, and mostly, Helloween melodies and riffs) just started repeating in my mind... which actually hindered me in my work :D I'm a translator and for some reason, the guitar and vocal melodies were always going on in my mind and I could barely work. So I had to give up on melodic music and that's when I found Infant Annhilator and then Rings of Saturn. RoS is what saved my job :D The riffs and the faster melodies are very catchy for my ears, but not so much that I can't work, so I'm really grateful. Not to mention their lyrics, I totally feel what the songs are about - and I'm not talking about the "primer" lyrics about aliens but about the deeper layers about the devastation the humankind created in a blink of the eye and being a pain in the ass for the planet and the environment due to our destructive nature. These stuff kick ass and bringing in the aliens to solve the humankind-issue, it's epic. So, thanks Herman and Lucas and all the other guys in the DF and RoS!
Vampirock Ամիս առաջ
Bring rusty cooley ⚡️
frostogtaake 2 ամիս առաջ
The music for the final fight with K Rool in DK Country was straight up power metal. i remember just pausing the game and listening to that song over and over when I was like 10 years old
ParTICC 2 ամիս առաջ
the guitar U N U S A N N U S
Mfrji 2 ամիս առաջ
9000000 string guitar holy shit bro
take shelter
take shelter 2 ամիս առաջ
Don 84
Don 84 2 ամիս առաջ
Hermon. .....jam with Erock next.
Armando Gemei
Armando Gemei 2 ամիս առաջ
So messed up how some people can be, it is lonely at the top since everyone else is trying to bring you down but props to you both for rising above the 🐂 💩
Syno Ji
Syno Ji 2 ամիս առաջ
i love you and i really appreciate the positivity that you spread we really need it in this community
Cyril CorbaK
Cyril CorbaK 2 ամիս առաջ
ouin ouinnnnn victims ! be a man stop crying
El Sniper
El Sniper 2 ամիս առաջ
Lucas' facial expression 9:48 onwards I can't cope ahahahahaha
Chris Nikas
Chris Nikas 2 ամիս առաջ
we need videos like this one !!!!!!!!!!!!!
MaggotHouseRecords 2 ամիս առաջ
Very convenient to call anyone who does not like ur music a "hater". Thats like me saying every girl that doesn't wanna fuck me is a lesbian. Yeah, I'm sure some people are jealous of ur skills..but many just dont like it because its overly tech wankery ...its just boring for some people. Does not mean they are haters...does not mean they are not sophisticated enough get into it. I mean come on....these 2 bands being featured are obviously wayyyy more about showcasing skills as if entering in some big worldwide musicianship contest rather than just making good, catchy, memorably songs worth many repeated listens. If it was all a contest ya'll would be guitar skill contenders for sure....but its not...and good songs do not call for that all the time. Its about riffs and structure ....not how hard a riff.... is or how fast its played .....or how complex the structure is. There are bands (like libido Airbag) who's music is entirely "fake" ...but its more catchy and I like it better. That's not being a hater. No matter how good you guys get at ur instrument.... it'll never be about that for mature music listeners/fans. Ur base are a bunch of kids. you make kid music basically I guess lol!
Lord Kermitty
Lord Kermitty Ամիս առաջ
Bruh... Someone punched him in the face and court was involved in it.. Do u think those are not haters. Lol i find it funny u wrote this whole thing and u dont even know what they are talking about. Lol thry are talking about actual haters and thr controversy whoch happened with lucas wherr he was proven innocent. And talking about their fan base is having bunch of kids, kids these days listen to shitty pop and rap music.
Lordenzus 2 ամիս առաջ
Get Caputo in the Spotify pic, c'mon! :) Two good people talking the good stuff.
blessthecah 2 ամիս առաջ
lol the thumbnail got me, i thought it was sarah longfield
Thomas Lieka
Thomas Lieka 2 ամիս առաջ
If There Are No Obstacle On Your Path, Its The Wrong Path ;)
K Ruth
K Ruth 2 ամիս առաջ
Should have broken out in the "Tornado Of Souls" solo as the chord progression was the same.
Jose Cazares
Jose Cazares 2 ամիս առաջ
How did hermliy do the flame and fire the guitar got throw his body
BODOLAND REAL LOCAL Pubg pro player BANANA GWRA BrO 2 ամիս առաջ
Death metal genre fan
Lukkapie 2 ամիս առաջ
My man sounds like John Petrucci
Vyacheslav Lysenkov
Vyacheslav Lysenkov 2 ամիս առաջ
Herman Lee won. With Fatality
Oki Oki
Oki Oki 2 ամիս առաջ
I'm shocked Legator got Lucas on their register. They have pretty horrible quality control from what I've seen. Im sure his guitars are perfect, though.
Finish Him!
Finish Him! 2 ամիս առաջ
I can’t deny that Lucas has INSANE talent I just cannot stand ROS.
BootyToast 2 ամիս առաջ
It's not for everyone. But the whole band is super nice and I love the music and band.
ExtremeLiveCams 2 ամիս առաջ
I would die for a ttfaf cover by rings
Dhul Mc lee
Dhul Mc lee 2 ամիս առաջ
Lucas must talk about joel
Steve-tron 2 ամիս առաջ
He does have an overly-punchable face
jake wize
jake wize 2 ամիս առաջ
Both cool ass dudes! Take their advice!
arjan snijder
arjan snijder 2 ամիս առաջ
awesome video. walk over them they say, don't let them drag you down. Your own live is enough for yourself, people can't deal with allot of negative stuff. Motivate eachother to do stuff instead of break eachother off at the legs.
Albrtx Zurc
Albrtx Zurc 2 ամիս առաջ
this guy is on another level... Lucas one of the best guitar players ever. 2 legends here.
viking_of_sweden 2 ամիս առաջ
You are both great players. Just keep rocking and ignore all the negative shit.
Night Killer
Night Killer 2 ամիս առաջ
The best guitar player’s is someone who can play and who can create a hook that pulls people into your beautiful art and work and songs
nlkhoshiro 2 ամիս առաջ
I must say: musicially i'm not into rings of saturn but lucas mann is truly an inspiration -as a human being. honestly I do remember your reaction video back then, your approach after all the shit with jared, being able to be the truly bigger man and still cooperate with him and still not being bitter ,angry or sad but you were so calm and addressed every issue so lucas mann - i wish i was a bit like you...
Pedro 2 ամիս առաջ
So basically most people are shitty people, negative comments are expected and everyone is very opinionated on every topic regardless if they know shit about the topic or not.... Now the good part is that not everybody is like that and there are good people out there... so block the rest!!!!!
Complexik 2 ամիս առաջ
Don't try to be better than somebody else. Try to be better than yourself.
Jonny Hughes
Jonny Hughes 2 ամիս առաջ
THis is cool.
BrunoDSL 2 ամիս առաջ
The biggest amount of hate you can get from guitar players in my experience can be accomplished by saying these two things: - Tonewoods don't do anything in solid body electric guitars, as the wood is a structural element and air vibrations have no effect over magnetic fields. - You can play microtonal music using a fretless guitar as the notes are always there without the extra frets.
Genrywhat 2 ամիս առաջ
Уши вянут от игры Германа, а так норм.
AlienOrchestraOfficial 2 ամիս առաջ
It would be super easy for us all without haters we’re facing them each and every day.. let’s just ignore them!! cool video Herman!!!
Daniele Raimondi
Daniele Raimondi 2 ամիս առաջ
5:50 when you put your PS5 dvd into your old Nintendo console.
Shawn Johnson
Shawn Johnson 2 ամիս առաջ
Guitar Counselors
Arkadeep Basu
Arkadeep Basu 2 ամիս առաջ
Lucas is a good dude. Just keep doing what you do . You are an inspiration to a lot of players including me. Mad respect man
Auriflamme 2 ամիս առաջ
This really hit home with me. There's always going to be nasty petty people in the world who need to tear other people down in order to feel better about themselves. Keep shredding, keep kicking ass because both of you guys are what the world needs right now even if we don't always deserve you.
Agastya Pratap
Agastya Pratap 2 ամիս առաջ
Well my guitar sir is a hater of Herman and you may think why? Because according to him, Herman just plays only two notes and I am a fan so I won't be able to learn Dragonforce because of him 🙄
Grip Phillips
Grip Phillips 2 ամիս առաջ
I have literally backed up Lucas when he took a break even messaging him and letting him know I'm a fan and he is a legend in my eye's. I love Lucas he is legit as a person and should be treated with respect just like anyone else should be
Bob Rocks
Bob Rocks Ամիս առաջ
🤘🤘Nice job man!
Bob Rocks
Bob Rocks Ամիս առաջ
@Xenophagia 🤘🤘
Xenophagia 2 ամիս առաջ
Good on you🤘 Before all this shit happened, we were chillin with him before a show and he was showing my guitarist how he plays some of his most gnarly riffs. No amp or anything. So I always knew it was BS. Also it trips me out that people (especially those involved with music and playing live gigs) don't know how backing tracks and a silent stage work in a smaller club setting. Depending on where you stand, all you may hear is a backing track. As soon as I saw that video I just laughed. It's just really shitty how people treated the guy, especially supposed friends whom are also musicians(wont say any names). They of all people should have understood what was going on in that video, but I think most of them were just being disingenuous and trying to get those precious drama clicks. Anyway, Im just glad the guy is back and doing what he loves.
Bob Joseph Delos Santos
Bob Joseph Delos Santos 2 ամիս առաջ
PLease react to Through thr Fire and the CHICKEN by cole
Bubonik Kronik
Bubonik Kronik 2 ամիս առաջ
Wonder if Lucas' first concert with Dragonforce might have been at the Wiltern. Was also my first and All That Remains was on the tour as well.
Hitokiri Battousai
Hitokiri Battousai 2 ամիս առաջ
can you please invite THOMAS YOUNGBLOOD and BJORN GELOTTE.. pleaaasseee.. :D
Khaos Legion
Khaos Legion 2 ամիս առաջ
Herman li + Lucas Mann = Dragon Rings
Catsauce 64
Catsauce 64 2 ամիս առաջ
Rings of dragons?
Erik Murzagaliyev
Erik Murzagaliyev 2 ամիս առաջ
Remember how a certain Jared was doubting Lucas Mann's integrity as a skilled guitarist? Yeah, that happened.
DRDynamyte 2 ամիս առաջ
Exactly. I’m surprised he still has a huge fanbase because the Lucas ordeal went pretty big. He’s an idiot.
Deathbrewer 2 ամիս առաջ
He did the same to the main guitarist in Unprocessed, saying something like "hands don't move like that" in regards to his fast/percussive picking style. Jared needs to lay off the hater/jealousy sauce a bit. I heard him and Lucas at least made up but that doesn't erase his pattern of behavior still.
DRDynamyte 2 ամիս առաջ
Yyyep, I remember everything. Jared’s a dick.
XZordium Kalen Tomlinson
XZordium Kalen Tomlinson 2 ամիս առաջ
Most ambitious crossover in history
Orion Onerom
Orion Onerom 2 ամիս առաջ
Hanginman 2 ամիս առաջ
I love lucas mann, I got to talk to him for a hot minute after a show in my place, and he has inspired me more then anyone else, I hope lucas sees this I love you man
Anker Peet
Anker Peet 2 ամիս առաջ
I remember I posted a video on AM-posts of me and my friends playing a song. Everyone was commenting on how fat I was. It sucked. I was only 14 years old. That kind of stuff sticks with you for a long time. People online are real people! Be kind!
Xenophagia 2 ամիս առաջ
Yeah, people can be shitty. Just understand that they are trying to make themselves feel better about their own shortcomings. For every asshole like that, there are tons of others who see your talent and appreciate you for you. So just keep shredding and doing your thing. Don't let other's pull you down, no matter how hard it can be🤘
13 49
13 49 2 ամիս առաջ
The stream was streamed at half speed
GiorgioDOPPIAG 2 ամիս առաջ
Love both the bands! Hope to see them live again in the future, unfortunately I've seen Rings Of Saturn last year without Lucas. FU*KING LEGENDS! (independently if you like them or not)
Robert John Dela Rosa
Robert John Dela Rosa 2 ամիս առաջ
I learned about Lucas Mann (and Rings of Saturn) thru Jared Dines' videos. One of those, of course is the infamous calling out of Jared on Mann's "fake" playing. After watching all related videos to that debacle and the Among Us videos, I think I can say that Lucas is one talented, cool and humble dude. The usual feelings of amazement from these videos have suddenly turned into disgust as both of them discussed their share of haters. I mean, what type of confident bastard can come up to Herman and say that he's better than him? I am profoundly glad that you both persevered and didn't really waste your time on those vermins. More power to DragonForce and Rings of Saturn..
Ultimate Dodger
Ultimate Dodger 2 ամիս առաջ
Thanks for sharing your stories, Herman and Lucas.
tam geof
tam geof 2 ամիս առաջ
You guys are amazing there just some bitchass haters
StevenM801 2 ամիս առաջ
the duuuudes
Jo Xef
Jo Xef 2 ամիս առաջ
Mr.Herman Li how about Stevie T
wubba lubba lub lub
wubba lubba lub lub 2 ամիս առաջ
"This is what I wanna do: I want to make crazy crazy music, that would inspire other people to be better" Dude, I am happy to say, that I started to push forward on my technique (and also music theory) because of you man!
Ferishandy Bagaskara
Ferishandy Bagaskara 2 ամիս առաջ
You two are great musician, and also has good personality, respect for you two man
Austin Tyler
Austin Tyler 2 ամիս առաջ
The thought of that guy trying to pick up the girl by saying I'm a better guitar player. Girls don't care about guitar nerdery haha.
Jimmy Running Dog
Jimmy Running Dog 2 ամիս առաջ
I do think there are girls that are impressed with a guy that does some fine guitar playing, or just about anything, if the guy does it well.
Xenophagia 2 ամիս առաջ
Ikr🤣 Dude would have just looked like a drunk jackass.
Dragon Heart
Dragon Heart 2 ամիս առաջ
EctoRekt 2 ամիս առաջ
Chat: - calling each other douchebag - Lucas: "I had to take time off for mental health" Also Chat: "mental health, yeah, mental health is important." Also Lucas: "the type of people struggling with mental health and end up being shitty about it are just bad people" Pick a lane.
Crow Demon - The Archives
Crow Demon - The Archives 2 ամիս առաջ
There's a difference between being affected mentally, and making use of the former be an absolute twit to random people out there. It's not mutually exclusive.
GPOLICE 2 ամիս առաջ
You can be crazy but you cant be bad. Get gud
Rob Ferrell
Rob Ferrell 2 ամիս առաջ
Well people do try to blame their mental bullshit for them being toxic. I can't stand that shit. Like everyone has those problems they are not special.
Everett 2 ամիս առաջ
Shred em' haters 🤘🏻
Sam Jurd
Sam Jurd 2 ամիս առաջ
that last solo saved the world
Gaël Sortino
Gaël Sortino 2 ամիս առաջ
Big love for Lucas Mann
The EpicSlayer7 SSS
The EpicSlayer7 SSS 2 ամիս առաջ
that story made me go "WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F" but i read some comment about a controversy and he responded that he can't publicly comment on it yet; i must admit i am glad that this is it. (i mean it is not like one of them being accused of raping or doing drugs or stealing songs... for the word controversy could have meant something to dislike the band for but in this case it is not!) PS watching this makes me realize i have not played guitar in 3 years since i live at home and my brother works at night and sleep in the day so there is never a good time to play... i have no finger muscle left, nor any hard skin at the tip... i literally got spaghetti or noodles for fingers now!
dbassir87 2 ամիս առաջ
Love this attitude Positivity is everything
Jack Rysavy
Jack Rysavy 2 ամիս առաջ
Abhay Nayak
Abhay Nayak 2 ամիս առաջ
For every 1 asshole you deal with, there’s 1000s of fans who love you. The bad stuff might make you step back but always remember millions of us respect your god level skills and music which has motivated so many people to pick up their guitar ❤️
Shwooty Woot
Shwooty Woot 2 ամիս առաջ
Lucas you're awesome, man. Herman, great show!
Christian Saona
Christian Saona 2 ամիս առաջ
More videos like this please. its very inspirational
Arjun Ad
Arjun Ad 2 ամիս առաջ
"You are always no1 for you" this is excatly what i follow in my life..
Daniel Davila
Daniel Davila 2 ամիս առաջ
Now with Charles Casswell from Berried Alive :D
Fellipe 2 ամիս առաջ
awesome 😊
allsic 2 ամիս առաջ
Awesome Herman and Lucas you guys rock!
Andrew Connolly
Andrew Connolly 2 ամիս առաջ
This stream was recorded in half time
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Do a guitar solo video of “Inside The Winter Storm”
AChristianYoutube 2 ամիս առաջ
Every day we stray further from god
Ronnie Riveros
Ronnie Riveros 2 ամիս առաջ
Thanks for this video I love dragonforce music deeply and I love listening to Rings of Saturn too, you 2 are amazing guitarists and just like you are inspired by video game music I almost cried when Lucas Mann said that Herman Li was his inspiration for real I would love to be able to see you live one day greetings from Chile 🤘🏻🤘🏻🔥🔥🔥👽👽
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Cody 2 ամիս առաջ
Shredding faces !!!!l😉🤗
TerminusCOBHC 2 ամիս առաջ
This video is a pretty good commentary on the fact that metalheads and metal musicians are *nothing* like each other.
Geoffrey Godshall
Geoffrey Godshall 2 ամիս առաջ
Agreed. Dali isn't better than Picasso. Entirely different styles. Is Maiden better than Bach? To simply ask the question misses the point by a long shot. It directly translates to music as far as comparing art forms. I suck at bass like a toddler sucks at water colors. It's open to interpretation, but only to an extent. Pro photographer vs. someone with an iPhone. You can tell the difference, especially when people pay good money for one and not the other. Fascinating.
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