Metal, Shred and Haters with Herman Li (DragonForce) & Lucas Mann (Rings of Saturn)

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Shred Talk! DragonForce guitarist @Herman Li & Lucas Mann of @Rings of Saturn Band Official discuss how to deal with haters and negative comments in real life and on the internet. What do you think someone should do, to prepare themselves if they are to become a professional musician or artist in the public eye?
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Yarsh Fu
Yarsh Fu 2 օր առաջ
I personally can't believe how stupid some people are that they hear something like rings of saturn and how amazing every damn song is and they have to basically deny that it's real and try and outcast someone like Lucas Mann when they should want to be near him and learn and at the very least let him know how fucking mind blowing his playing is. Any other reaction is unacceptable. I remember being a kid and seeing people that are so good at there instrument was what made music so special to me, the mind set of seeing greatness and having to deny it and put it down is a disgusting horrible human trait and anyone who does that should be the ones ridiculed. How dare they have any affect on my favorite band. I'm super passed off cause I heard rings of saturn was playing in my tiny little town in oregon like 3 days after my birthday and I thought yeah right, like that would ever happen. Then I saw tickets for sale and I lost my shit! More stoked I could not have been. Then on show day I see Ian and Aaron and holy shit miles Dimitri baker (being a guitar player myself I have watched countless hours of miles and Lucas on AM-posts and love every min) I can't belive I'm seeing this in my shithole town, but I keep looking for Lucas, finally I buy a round of beers and shots for the band so I can work my way into a conversation and hopefully an autograph on my many pieces of r.o.s. merch. I sadly find out Lucas won't be playing that night, I was bummed but hey I still get to see rings. It was epic show epic night and If those assholes that talk shit about Lucas was the reason I didn't get to see him that night then man they all owe me big time. Just thought I would share that. Anyways love what you do Mr. Mann I hope to see it live one day. Thanks for making my life better with your madness and If I ever hear anyone talking any kind of shit about you or the band then I put them in there place and I'm a pretty big dude. I got your back.
Sr. Odriguez
Sr. Odriguez 3 օր առաջ
Then they do reviews in Metal Archives to feel like kings, but in reality, they are all just a bunch of sad fucks, crying for help.
MC G-ZUS
MC G-ZUS 27 օր առաջ
im happy Lucas found his balance. Motherfuckers just come online and just throw out all these wild accusations and think it has no effect, like dude, Lucas is a real human too - he sees all this shit, and he works and spends HOURS a day to play like he does, then to have some mindless punks call him out when he works so hard. its garbage. Cheers lucas u are a top tier shredder
Bucky James
Bucky James Ամիս առաջ
50 seconds in and giving this a huge thumbs up! Nice to hear a pro even notices how volatile the guitar world can be. Herman is a breath of fresh air with this channel, nothing but good vibes and fun!
paul white
paul white Ամիս առաջ
I could imagine Dragonforce and Rings of Saturn collaborate on an Album. It would be LEGENDARY.
Matt Gwinnutt
Matt Gwinnutt Ամիս առաջ
Ah just reminded me to listen to RoS
Brian Daggar
Brian Daggar Ամիս առաջ
People are always gonna hate. Its sucks. Especially when your pushing the envelope of whats possible. There are always gonna be people like thats fake. Or this guy is better. Blah blah blah. Can't please them all and you don't need to but haters go fuck yourself stop shitting on people with 10 times the talent you will ever have.
Slipper Man
Slipper Man Ամիս առաջ
You could walk a pensioner across the road and someone will hate you for it,
nate duda
nate duda Ամիս առաջ
Doesn't seem to be a douche like he used to be, I can appreciate his talent but never been a huge fan of rings of Saturn
Joshua McVicker
Joshua McVicker Ամիս առաջ
Dude lucas your music is amazing I've been listening and playing your music since the beginning and I'll always love what you do and think you're the absolute embodiment of perfection thank you for everything you do
SwitchLaserFlip
SwitchLaserFlip 2 ամիս առաջ
Funny how much shit-talk you can get away with if you just claim that you're talking about "haters."
Hellscream Games
Hellscream Games 2 ամիս առաջ
Good video.
Bradley Hart
Bradley Hart 2 ամիս առաջ
shoutout megaman x
Rj Dillinger
Rj Dillinger 2 ամիս առաջ
Thank you guys for the positivity! Its really horrible how people can be.
Meinungsfreiheit in Deutschland?
Meinungsfreiheit in Deutschland? 2 ամիս առաջ
He looks like Conchita Wurst !👍😂👍👍👍
Porash S
Porash S 2 ամիս առաջ
America and
Illuminati Corgi
Illuminati Corgi 2 ամիս առաջ
Look at that FUCKING PRS 😐🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
TheOfficial Big Meech
TheOfficial Big Meech 2 ամիս առաջ
Man got rocked and pussed out
NaKMg
NaKMg 2 ամիս առաջ
Is in the middle of deep conversation: SUDDEN SHRED
IbanezDanny
IbanezDanny 3 ամիս առաջ
I've mainly only ever seen Lucas in videos shredding as well as a few other mini talking segments, I've always thought he seemed like a really nice guy but this interview showed me a whole other side. What a nice guy, crazy what he went through it just goes to show never judge someone and always be nice, because you never know what someone is dealing with.
O
O 3 ամիս առաջ
On just a personal level, I hope you're doing well now after taking the break you needed, Lucas.
Julio Acero
Julio Acero 3 ամիս առաջ
Talking about how shitty people can be and some people in the chat like "guitar time please" 😂😂 like let them talk right now do you not see how ironic this is 😂😂
DME EMD
DME EMD 3 ամիս առաջ
I've been play guitar for 20 years, I know what you guys are playing is being played, also people don't understand I technology it is used, including lag and which guitar their hearing and so on. I have seen you guys at venues where stage is one foot or two foot high so you're right up there in the front and any video I've recorded of your shows is obviously you and the band playing. If you look at Tosin Abasi, everybody was saying that he couldn't play that clean which obviously isn't the case either. The shit needs to stop with this. I seen other bands and I won't name them where it's obviously sampled over. I think you should repost this video again because the sort of stuff doesn't get better so I appreciate you putting something out like this. 🤘
Rich Nixdorf
Rich Nixdorf 3 ամիս առաջ
Let's not mention in flames, killswitch, all that remains, unearth and ect.
Rich Nixdorf
Rich Nixdorf 3 ամիս առաջ
Maybe sprinkle in some overcast, shadows fall and dream theater.
Adam Glory
Adam Glory 3 ամիս առաջ
When I heard Herman say, guys would go up to the girl with him and say, I’m a better guitar player than this guy. 😂 NGL I laughed at loud.
macdonald
macdonald 4 ամիս առաջ
this podcast is gnarly af
EnVision
EnVision 4 ամիս առաջ
you seem like the nice guitarist ever, great work love what you do. subscribed
Soldagg
Soldagg 4 ամիս առաջ
Some people are insane. What is wrong with people? (the haters).
Bob Rocks
Bob Rocks 4 ամիս առաջ
I guess untalented jealous people just can't appreciate great guitarists... sad. These guys are huge inspirations, respect! \m/
Bronco XY
Bronco XY 5 ամիս առաջ
When you got your fair share of haters, thats when you know you're good lmao Amazing players both of you, wish you all the best and I'm happy to see that you are well able to prove every shittalker wrong; love ya!
Al Brandon
Al Brandon 5 ամիս առաջ
Really important stories here, thanks so much for sharing!
locriam
locriam 5 ամիս առաջ
Que layos dijo?
Terd Cutter
Terd Cutter 5 ամիս առաջ
i took acid at a rings of saturn show at the trocadero in philly holy shit dude lucas gave me a shout out for being maniac
Dr. SMILE
Dr. SMILE 5 ամիս առաջ
You should featuring MATT ZULEGER from SHADES OF BLACK :)
Salzius Toxicus
Salzius Toxicus 5 ամիս առաջ
Two great Musicians and Two Great Humans!!!
Ádám Vécsey
Ádám Vécsey 5 ամիս առաջ
This was awesome. Both guitar players should be admired for their skills and all the people accusing them faking their music... they're just so damn ridiculous. I don't know what the accusers were smoking :D But you know the words... haters gonna hate. Jealousy is and will always be a powerful feeling and also a powerful "asset" to let out their negative energies and unleash those on others. Btw I love both bands, I've listened to lots of DF several years ago, but a few years ago the melodies (of DF, RoF, and mostly, Helloween melodies and riffs) just started repeating in my mind... which actually hindered me in my work :D I'm a translator and for some reason, the guitar and vocal melodies were always going on in my mind and I could barely work. So I had to give up on melodic music and that's when I found Infant Annhilator and then Rings of Saturn. RoS is what saved my job :D The riffs and the faster melodies are very catchy for my ears, but not so much that I can't work, so I'm really grateful. Not to mention their lyrics, I totally feel what the songs are about - and I'm not talking about the "primer" lyrics about aliens but about the deeper layers about the devastation the humankind created in a blink of the eye and being a pain in the ass for the planet and the environment due to our destructive nature. These stuff kick ass and bringing in the aliens to solve the humankind-issue, it's epic. So, thanks Herman and Lucas and all the other guys in the DF and RoS!
Vampirock
Vampirock 5 ամիս առաջ
Bring rusty cooley ⚡️
frostogtaake
frostogtaake 5 ամիս առաջ
The music for the final fight with K Rool in DK Country was straight up power metal. i remember just pausing the game and listening to that song over and over when I was like 10 years old
‎‎
‎‎ 5 ամիս առաջ
the guitar U N U S A N N U S
Mfrji
Mfrji 5 ամիս առաջ
9000000 string guitar holy shit bro
take shelter
take shelter 5 ամիս առաջ
Nice
Don 84
Don 84 5 ամիս առաջ
Hermon. .....jam with Erock next.
Armando Gemei
Armando Gemei 5 ամիս առաջ
So messed up how some people can be, it is lonely at the top since everyone else is trying to bring you down but props to you both for rising above the 🐂 💩
Syno Ji
Syno Ji 5 ամիս առաջ
i love you and i really appreciate the positivity that you spread we really need it in this community
Cyril CorbaK
Cyril CorbaK 5 ամիս առաջ
ouin ouinnnnn victims ! be a man stop crying
El Sniper
El Sniper 5 ամիս առաջ
Lucas' facial expression 9:48 onwards I can't cope ahahahahaha
Chris Nikas
Chris Nikas 5 ամիս առաջ
we need videos like this one !!!!!!!!!!!!!
MaggotHouseRecords
MaggotHouseRecords 5 ամիս առաջ
Very convenient to call anyone who does not like ur music a "hater". Thats like me saying every girl that doesn't wanna fuck me is a lesbian. Yeah, I'm sure some people are jealous of ur skills..but many just dont like it because its overly tech wankery ...its just boring for some people. Does not mean they are haters...does not mean they are not sophisticated enough get into it. I mean come on....these 2 bands being featured are obviously wayyyy more about showcasing skills as if entering in some big worldwide musicianship contest rather than just making good, catchy, memorably songs worth many repeated listens. If it was all a contest ya'll would be guitar skill contenders for sure....but its not...and good songs do not call for that all the time. Its about riffs and structure ....not how hard a riff.... is or how fast its played .....or how complex the structure is. There are bands (like libido Airbag) who's music is entirely "fake" ...but its more catchy and I like it better. That's not being a hater. No matter how good you guys get at ur instrument.... it'll never be about that for mature music listeners/fans. Ur base are a bunch of kids. you make kid music basically I guess lol!
Lord Kermitty
Lord Kermitty 5 ամիս առաջ
Bruh... Someone punched him in the face and court was involved in it.. Do u think those are not haters. Lol i find it funny u wrote this whole thing and u dont even know what they are talking about. Lol thry are talking about actual haters and thr controversy whoch happened with lucas wherr he was proven innocent. And talking about their fan base is having bunch of kids, kids these days listen to shitty pop and rap music.
Lordenzus
Lordenzus 5 ամիս առաջ
Get Caputo in the Spotify pic, c'mon! :) Two good people talking the good stuff.
blessthecah
blessthecah 5 ամիս առաջ
lol the thumbnail got me, i thought it was sarah longfield
Thomas Lieka
Thomas Lieka 5 ամիս առաջ
If There Are No Obstacle On Your Path, Its The Wrong Path ;)
B Ruth
B Ruth 5 ամիս առաջ
Should have broken out in the "Tornado Of Souls" solo as the chord progression was the same.
Jose Cazares
Jose Cazares 5 ամիս առաջ
How did hermliy do the flame and fire the guitar got throw his body
MWNAYAO HORSE GAME GELENA PUNGYAO UNDUGRA
MWNAYAO HORSE GAME GELENA PUNGYAO UNDUGRA 5 ամիս առաջ
Death metal genre fan
Lukkapie
Lukkapie 5 ամիս առաջ
My man sounds like John Petrucci
Vyacheslav Lysenkov
Vyacheslav Lysenkov 5 ամիս առաջ
Herman Lee won. With Fatality
Oki Oki
Oki Oki 5 ամիս առաջ
I'm shocked Legator got Lucas on their register. They have pretty horrible quality control from what I've seen. Im sure his guitars are perfect, though.
Finish Him!
Finish Him! 5 ամիս առաջ
I can’t deny that Lucas has INSANE talent I just cannot stand ROS.
BootyToast
BootyToast 5 ամիս առաջ
It's not for everyone. But the whole band is super nice and I love the music and band.
ExtremeLiveCams
ExtremeLiveCams 5 ամիս առաջ
I would die for a ttfaf cover by rings
VARIETYVid
VARIETYVid 5 ամիս առաջ
Lucas must talk about joel
Steve-tron
Steve-tron 5 ամիս առաջ
He does have an overly-punchable face
jacob wieczorek
jacob wieczorek 5 ամիս առաջ
Both cool ass dudes! Take their advice!
arjan snijder
arjan snijder 5 ամիս առաջ
awesome video. walk over them they say, don't let them drag you down. Your own live is enough for yourself, people can't deal with allot of negative stuff. Motivate eachother to do stuff instead of break eachother off at the legs.
Albrtx Zurc
Albrtx Zurc 5 ամիս առաջ
this guy is on another level... Lucas one of the best guitar players ever. 2 legends here.
viking_of_sweden
viking_of_sweden 5 ամիս առաջ
You are both great players. Just keep rocking and ignore all the negative shit.
Chains
Chains 5 ամիս առաջ
The best guitar player’s is someone who can play and who can create a hook that pulls people into your beautiful art and work and songs
nlkhoshiro
nlkhoshiro 5 ամիս առաջ
I must say: musicially i'm not into rings of saturn but lucas mann is truly an inspiration -as a human being. honestly I do remember your reaction video back then, your approach after all the shit with jared, being able to be the truly bigger man and still cooperate with him and still not being bitter ,angry or sad but you were so calm and addressed every issue so lucas mann - i wish i was a bit like you...
Pedro
Pedro 5 ամիս առաջ
So basically most people are shitty people, negative comments are expected and everyone is very opinionated on every topic regardless if they know shit about the topic or not.... Now the good part is that not everybody is like that and there are good people out there... so block the rest!!!!!
Complexik
Complexik 5 ամիս առաջ
Don't try to be better than somebody else. Try to be better than yourself.
Jonny Hughes
Jonny Hughes 5 ամիս առաջ
THis is cool.
BrunoDSL
BrunoDSL 5 ամիս առաջ
The biggest amount of hate you can get from guitar players in my experience can be accomplished by saying these two things: - Tonewoods don't do anything in solid body electric guitars, as the wood is a structural element and air vibrations have no effect over magnetic fields. - You can play microtonal music using a fretless guitar as the notes are always there without the extra frets.
Genrywhat
Genrywhat 5 ամիս առաջ
Уши вянут от игры Германа, а так норм.
AlienOrchestraOfficial
AlienOrchestraOfficial 5 ամիս առաջ
It would be super easy for us all without haters we’re facing them each and every day.. let’s just ignore them!! cool video Herman!!!
Daniele Raimondi
Daniele Raimondi 5 ամիս առաջ
5:50 when you put your PS5 dvd into your old Nintendo console.
Shawn Johnson
Shawn Johnson 5 ամիս առաջ
Guitar Counselors
Arkadeep Basu
Arkadeep Basu 5 ամիս առաջ
Lucas is a good dude. Just keep doing what you do . You are an inspiration to a lot of players including me. Mad respect man
Auriflamme
Auriflamme 5 ամիս առաջ
This really hit home with me. There's always going to be nasty petty people in the world who need to tear other people down in order to feel better about themselves. Keep shredding, keep kicking ass because both of you guys are what the world needs right now even if we don't always deserve you.
Agastya Pratap
Agastya Pratap 5 ամիս առաջ
Well my guitar sir is a hater of Herman and you may think why? Because according to him, Herman just plays only two notes and I am a fan so I won't be able to learn Dragonforce because of him 🙄
Grip Phillips
Grip Phillips 5 ամիս առաջ
I have literally backed up Lucas when he took a break even messaging him and letting him know I'm a fan and he is a legend in my eye's. I love Lucas he is legit as a person and should be treated with respect just like anyone else should be
Bob Rocks
Bob Rocks 4 ամիս առաջ
🤘🤘Nice job man!
Bob Rocks
Bob Rocks 4 ամիս առաջ
@Xenophagia 🤘🤘
Xenophagia
Xenophagia 5 ամիս առաջ
Good on you🤘 Before all this shit happened, we were chillin with him before a show and he was showing my guitarist how he plays some of his most gnarly riffs. No amp or anything. So I always knew it was BS. Also it trips me out that people (especially those involved with music and playing live gigs) don't know how backing tracks and a silent stage work in a smaller club setting. Depending on where you stand, all you may hear is a backing track. As soon as I saw that video I just laughed. It's just really shitty how people treated the guy, especially supposed friends whom are also musicians(wont say any names). They of all people should have understood what was going on in that video, but I think most of them were just being disingenuous and trying to get those precious drama clicks. Anyway, Im just glad the guy is back and doing what he loves.
Bob Joseph Delos Santos
Bob Joseph Delos Santos 5 ամիս առաջ
PLease react to Through thr Fire and the CHICKEN by cole
Bubonik Kronik
Bubonik Kronik 5 ամիս առաջ
Wonder if Lucas' first concert with Dragonforce might have been at the Wiltern. Was also my first and All That Remains was on the tour as well.
Dhon Estrada
Dhon Estrada 5 ամիս առաջ
can you please invite THOMAS YOUNGBLOOD and BJORN GELOTTE.. pleaaasseee.. :D
Khaos Legion
Khaos Legion 5 ամիս առաջ
Herman li + Lucas Mann = Dragon Rings
Pedalbored
Pedalbored Ամիս առաջ
Force of Uranus
Logik426
Logik426 3 ամիս առաջ
Force of Saturn
Catsauce 64
Catsauce 64 5 ամիս առաջ
Rings of dragons?
Erik Murzagaliyev
Erik Murzagaliyev 5 ամիս առաջ
Remember how a certain Jared was doubting Lucas Mann's integrity as a skilled guitarist? Yeah, that happened.
DRDynamyte
DRDynamyte 5 ամիս առաջ
Exactly. I’m surprised he still has a huge fanbase because the Lucas ordeal went pretty big. He’s an idiot.
Deathbrewer
Deathbrewer 5 ամիս առաջ
He did the same to the main guitarist in Unprocessed, saying something like "hands don't move like that" in regards to his fast/percussive picking style. Jared needs to lay off the hater/jealousy sauce a bit. I heard him and Lucas at least made up but that doesn't erase his pattern of behavior still.
DRDynamyte
DRDynamyte 5 ամիս առաջ
Yyyep, I remember everything. Jared’s a dick.
XZordium Kalen Tomlinson
XZordium Kalen Tomlinson 5 ամիս առաջ
Most ambitious crossover in history
Orion Onerom
Orion Onerom 5 ամիս առաջ
EXCITEDLY!
Hanginman
Hanginman 5 ամիս առաջ
I love lucas mann, I got to talk to him for a hot minute after a show in my place, and he has inspired me more then anyone else, I hope lucas sees this I love you man
Anker Peet
Anker Peet 5 ամիս առաջ
I remember I posted a video on AM-posts of me and my friends playing a song. Everyone was commenting on how fat I was. It sucked. I was only 14 years old. That kind of stuff sticks with you for a long time. People online are real people! Be kind!
Zyklon B still and know God
Zyklon B still and know God 26 օր առաջ
Get over it and be better
Xenophagia
Xenophagia 5 ամիս առաջ
Yeah, people can be shitty. Just understand that they are trying to make themselves feel better about their own shortcomings. For every asshole like that, there are tons of others who see your talent and appreciate you for you. So just keep shredding and doing your thing. Don't let other's pull you down, no matter how hard it can be🤘
13 49
13 49 5 ամիս առաջ
The stream was streamed at half speed
GiorgioDOPPIAG
GiorgioDOPPIAG 5 ամիս առաջ
Love both the bands! Hope to see them live again in the future, unfortunately I've seen Rings Of Saturn last year without Lucas. FU*KING LEGENDS! (independently if you like them or not)
Robert John Dela Rosa
Robert John Dela Rosa 5 ամիս առաջ
I learned about Lucas Mann (and Rings of Saturn) thru Jared Dines' videos. One of those, of course is the infamous calling out of Jared on Mann's "fake" playing. After watching all related videos to that debacle and the Among Us videos, I think I can say that Lucas is one talented, cool and humble dude. The usual feelings of amazement from these videos have suddenly turned into disgust as both of them discussed their share of haters. I mean, what type of confident bastard can come up to Herman and say that he's better than him? I am profoundly glad that you both persevered and didn't really waste your time on those vermins. More power to DragonForce and Rings of Saturn..
Ultimate Dodger
Ultimate Dodger 5 ամիս առաջ
Thanks for sharing your stories, Herman and Lucas.
tam geof
tam geof 5 ամիս առաջ
You guys are amazing there just some bitchass haters
StevenM801
StevenM801 5 ամիս առաջ
the duuuudes
Jo Xef
Jo Xef 5 ամիս առաջ
Mr.Herman Li how about Stevie T
Giulio M
Giulio M 5 ամիս առաջ
"This is what I wanna do: I want to make crazy crazy music, that would inspire other people to be better" Dude, I am happy to say, that I started to push forward on my technique (and also music theory) because of you man!
Ferishandy Bagaskara
Ferishandy Bagaskara 5 ամիս առաջ
You two are great musician, and also has good personality, respect for you two man
Austin Tyler
Austin Tyler 5 ամիս առաջ
The thought of that guy trying to pick up the girl by saying I'm a better guitar player. Girls don't care about guitar nerdery haha.
Massttrshrdr Harmonic minor
Massttrshrdr Harmonic minor Ամիս առաջ
If she a music chick maybe,
Jimmy Running Dog
Jimmy Running Dog 5 ամիս առաջ
I do think there are girls that are impressed with a guy that does some fine guitar playing, or just about anything, if the guy does it well.
Xenophagia
Xenophagia 5 ամիս առաջ
Ikr🤣 Dude would have just looked like a drunk jackass.
Zion Key
Zion Key 5 ամիս առաջ
EctoRekt
EctoRekt 5 ամիս առաջ
Chat: - calling each other douchebag - Lucas: "I had to take time off for mental health" Also Chat: "mental health, yeah, mental health is important." Also Lucas: "the type of people struggling with mental health and end up being shitty about it are just bad people" Pick a lane.
Crow Demon - The Archives
Crow Demon - The Archives 5 ամիս առաջ
There's a difference between being affected mentally, and making use of the former be an absolute twit to random people out there. It's not mutually exclusive.
GPOLICE
GPOLICE 5 ամիս առաջ
You can be crazy but you cant be bad. Get gud
Rob Ferrell
Rob Ferrell 5 ամիս առաջ
Well people do try to blame their mental bullshit for them being toxic. I can't stand that shit. Like everyone has those problems they are not special.
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